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Old May 04, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57   #101
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OK, you're babbling. I said he gives the impression of being one who used bots mainly by his defense of them. By basic human nature there will be three categories (primarily) of people... those against bots, those who use and/or support botting, and those who don't care either way. Again, by our very nature, these three categories will as a rule respond in very specific way. The anti-bot person (such as myself) will invariably post in opposition. The bot-user will post defensively in support of bots, yet will try to feign indifference in attempts to deflect from other people the knowledge that he actually uses the bots. The third group, those who don't care either way, will most likely not waste the effort posting to something irrelevant.
I highly doubt that a bot user really cares what people think about what they do and it's probably even less likely that they'd take time away from their bot-watching duties to post about it here.
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Old May 04, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23   #102
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I highly doubt that a bot user really cares what people think about what they do and it's probably even less likely that they'd take time away from their bot-watching duties to post about it here.
I did consider that valid point, however can easily see them wanting a voice in the discussion.
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Old May 04, 2007, 10:59 PM // 22:59   #103
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I highly doubt that a bot user really cares what people think about what they do and it's probably even less likely that they'd take time away from their bot-watching duties to post about it here.
You never know, there's always one or two of them self-righteous talkative folks...
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Old May 05, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24   #104
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Please be so kind as to show me where I ever made such a request.
You didn't make the request....but apparently you also were not reading the posts ahead of you either. The quotes of you and Narcism were specifically about this "kick bot" button. He was pointing out the potential abuse of such a button while you were attacking him for "defending bots". Pay attention now...everything I say is a lie....I am lying now. :P

Okay first of all....Unbound00: Comparing the use of third party software in an online game and peoples opinion of it....to their supposed lack of inaction about third world hunger is....well it's just unacceptable. So until you can tell me how you are preventing the killing of innocent people in Africa every day, take your serious discussion elsewhere...it does not belong here.

Seriously MSecorsky....I doth protest too much? Shame on you....I almost spewed Coke all over my keyboard when I read that.

I think you are forgetting the possible fifth personality type: The bot user who, wanting to distract the "hounds" from his own activities, goes online posting vehemently against the bot invasion, protesting that enough is enough and something must be done about them. Hoping that he will be seen as obviously someone who would never bot himself while including just enough information as to mislead any real investigation into the matter.

Ohhh...methinks MSecorsky hath missed the subtleties of my comparisons...and the connection to the whole religion/fervor... thing.

In case you are suspicious of the true motives I chose to post here....I will express it in one word:

Entertainment

After all, Spiderman 3 only premiered just today
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Old May 05, 2007, 02:12 AM // 02:12   #105
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Pay attention now...everything I say is a lie....I am lying now. :P
If what you said is a lie, then you're lying? But then that would be the truth!

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Old May 05, 2007, 05:49 AM // 05:49   #106
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Okay first of all....Unbound00: Comparing the use of third party software in an online game and peoples opinion of it....to their supposed lack of inaction about third world hunger is....well it's just unacceptable. So until you can tell me how you are preventing the killing of innocent people in Africa every day, take your serious discussion elsewhere...it does not belong here.
Lets think about it then. You are saying you don't care if there are people running bots in the game because it does not affect you. So in that you don't care that people in China are being offered next to nothing for programming and running hundreds of bots so that their employers can profit without any effort whatsoever from their part. How is that different from not caring about sweat shops run by other kinds of corporations that take advantage of peoples needs to eploit their labor for crums?
My point is, is just so easy for you not to care, but that makes you part of the problem. People are struggling to go by through whichever means necessary whilst you see them through a computer screen and accept it, laugh it out even.
Maybe this scenario is not true to all cases.
So lets think that some guy is running bots because he just needs to be a hot shot and crack the system without getting caught, or even if just for the prestige stuff he will be able to afford, or that he maybe simply MUST have that prestige and can't get it through the regular venues. Well that's just sad. Imagine the amount of importance this person places on a computer game. Maybe his account being banned will provide the reality check this guy needs to pay more close attention to his life. Once again to most people he just shows up as a pile of pixels running automated errands, so who cares about the person in need of counseling behind it.
Another thing, people running entire businesses based on exploiting online games to sell gold for money. That doesn't only concern in-game economy, it concerns economy itself, but in a more social manner. This enterprise (Anet in this case) develops a game and sell it as an entertainement service (an entertainement is a merchandise, or can be), so this other group of people buy the product, design something to exploit the product and profit over it. To me that's a parasite. If it were my product I know I wouldn't accept it, and even it not being my product I don't accept it. There's only one acceptable way to earn money in society and it is through work, and the fact that working most of the time doesn't make you rich, and the rich usually get their fortune marginally, stands to show that the individualist not-caring attittude perpetuates this. And don't say that programming bots is work because it's like saying that cheating on a test is studying.
That's my two cents.
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Old May 09, 2007, 05:19 PM // 17:19   #107
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Actually, I do have more than one report under my belt. However I spend so little time in towns... sigh...

Regardless, it's irrelevant. The rules are the rules. If you agree to play the game, you agree to the rules. If you don't like the rules, find a game with rules you like.



So, basically, you have no respect for the law. Fortunately for a civilized society, you are in the minority.

What in the name of Lyssa's left mammary is a grow-op?
If you don't know what a grow-op is then you need to get some friends/ and or go outside more.
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Old May 09, 2007, 05:43 PM // 17:43   #108
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come on, not all monk/whatever secondary is a bot?
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